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		<title>The Meaning Of Christian Baptism :: A Friendly Debate Among Strangers And Brothers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As usual I&#8217;m up late at night picking theological &#8220;fights&#8221; with people I don&#8217;t even know. On this particular night the lucky blogger was Pastor Leo Acosta from Miami, Florida. Mr. Acosta (and his friend Mike) has been more than &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/the-meaning-of-christian-baptism-a-friendly-debate-among-strangers-and-brothers/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=649&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/baptism.jpeg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-650" title="baptism" src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/baptism.jpeg?w=640" alt=""   /></a>As usual I&#8217;m up late at night picking theological &#8220;fights&#8221; with people I don&#8217;t even know. On this particular night the lucky blogger was Pastor Leo Acosta from Miami, Florida. Mr. Acosta (and his friend Mike) has been more than friendly toward me as I &#8220;gently&#8221; challenged his view that Christian Baptism is a &#8220;mere symbol&#8221; of the inward reality of the Christian experience of conversion. In his post my interlocutor espouses a traditional Baptist view regarding the meaning of baptism, and for his kindness and humility I am thankful.</p>
<p>Pastor Acosta asserts:</p>
<blockquote><p>Christian baptism is, according to the Bible, an outward testimony of what has occurred inwardly in a believer’s life. Christian baptism illustrates a believer’s identification with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read his short post on the meaning of baptism, along with the following interaction and debate as I argue for a stronger and more scriptural view of baptism and tell me what you think. Pastor Leo&#8217;s post can be seen <a href="http://pastorleoacosta.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/the-importance-of-christian-baptism/#comment-212">here</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for weighing in.</p>
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		<title>Vintage Christianity Changing The World :: Time Magazine And The New Calvinism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time magazine has listed &#8220;The New Calvinism&#8221; as on the &#8220;top ten ideas changing the world right now.&#8221; The New Calvinism was listed third. It is encouraging to me to see an article such as this for various reasons. Primarily, &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/genuine-christianity-still-changing-the-world-time-magazine-and-the-new-calvinism/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=510&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-511" title="new-calvinism" src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/new-calvinism.jpg?w=640" alt="new-calvinism"   />Time magazine has listed &#8220;The New Calvinism&#8221; as on the &#8220;top ten ideas changing the world right now.&#8221; The New Calvinism was listed third. It is encouraging to me to see an article such as this for various reasons. Primarily, It shows that this &#8220;new&#8221; group of &#8220;young, restless, and reformed&#8221; Christians is making an impact (for better not worse) on the culture around them. Also, it points to a resurgence of Christian theology in the life of the church. Even a Time magazine author can see the lack of biblical truth in many moderns movements and point out &#8220;Evangelicalism&#8217;s loss of appetite for rigid doctrine — and the triumph of that friendly, fuzzy Jesus.&#8221; Third, Time magazine offers a warning (albeit unwittingly) to these New Calvinists, namely that they should be careful of pride, arrogance, and &#8221;classic protestant backbiting.&#8221; It is encouraging to know that the Reformed movement is large enough within the modern evangelical church to get the attention of a largely secularized syndicate.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:15.8333px;line-height:23px;">The following is an excerpt from the article:<span id="more-510"></span><br />
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<blockquote><p>If you really want to follow the development of conservative Christianity, track its musical hits. In the early 1900s you might have heard &#8220;The Old Rugged Cross,&#8221; a celebration of the atonement. By the 1980s you could have shared the Jesus-is-my-buddy intimacy of &#8220;Shine, Jesus, Shine.&#8221; And today, more and more top songs feature a God who is very big, while we are&#8230;well, hark the David Crowder Band: &#8220;I am full of earth/ You are heaven&#8217;s worth/ I am stained with dirt/ Prone to depravity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Calvinism is back, and not just musically. John Calvin&#8217;s 16th century reply to medieval Catholicism&#8217;s buy-your-way-out-of-purgatory excesses is Evangelicalism&#8217;s latest success story, complete with an utterly sovereign and micromanaging deity, sinful and puny humanity, and the combination&#8217;s logical consequence, predestination: the belief that before time&#8217;s dawn, God decided whom he would save (or not), unaffected by any subsequent human action or decision.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the rest of the article <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1884779_1884782_1884760,00.html">here</a>:</p>
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		<title>Vintage Christianity Meets Postmodern Mindset :: One Agnostic&#8217;s Wishful Thinking</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Its too bad Christianity is not true.&#8221; That is what Scott, a highly educated, relatively wealthy scientist with multiple degrees from multiple universities said to me as we talked about Jesus over lunch. &#8220;It would be the greatest thing to &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/vintage-christianity-meets-postmodern-mindset-one-agnostics-wishful-thinking/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=504&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-508" title="agnostic-2" src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/agnostic-2.jpg?w=640" alt="agnostic-2"   />&#8220;Its too bad Christianity is not true.&#8221; That is what Scott, a highly educated, relatively wealthy scientist with multiple degrees from multiple universities said to me as we talked about Jesus over lunch. &#8220;It would be the greatest thing to have ever happened in the history of the world,&#8221; he said, &#8220;if only it were true.&#8221; Due to his presuppositions about the universe there was no room for God in Scott&#8217;s thinking. He wished it were true, but knew that it was not. At least that&#8217;s what Scott wanted me to think. I don&#8217;t know, he may have actually believed that what he was saying accurately pictured the desires of his heart. Somehow, I don&#8217;t think that Scott&#8217;s &#8220;wishful thinking&#8221; was really rooted in a clear understanding of who Jesus claimed to be. What Scott did not say is that he wished Christianity were true so that he could give his whole life to Christ, be ridiculed by the scientific community, lose all his prestige and money, and perhaps even die on the mission field someday. He did not wish for that. So, what is it about Christianity that Scott wished to be true?<span id="more-504"></span></p>
<p>I saw Scott in Barnes and Noble once reading a book entitled &#8220;God and the New Physics.&#8221; He said that he had come to believe that if it were possible for him to &#8220;allow for God&#8221; in his thinking regarding the universe, then it would be around the time of the big bang. In other words, Scott could almost (emphasis on almost) believe that there was some sort of being around at the time of the big bang who set things in motion. But that was it. No room for a God who not only creates, but who also is active in human history. No room for a God who reveals himself to man through miracles and prophets. No room for a God who makes demands on people and punishes sin, especially for all eternity! It was obvious to me that in all of Scott&#8217;s wishing regarding Christianity, he was not wishing for a Christianity that was rooted in biblical knowledge about what Christianity really is. In other words, Scott wished for a certain kind of Christianity, but not the Christianity of the Bible.</p>
<p>I think what Scott meant was that the idea of a creator God becoming a man in order to save humans from themselves is an attractive idea, and would be a good thing for humans, if only there were enough evidence to convince him that it was true, and so long as he could forget about all the stuff about eternal punishment in hell, repentance of sins, and self-sacrifice and holy living. He could &#8220;allow for&#8221; that kind of Christianity to be true, almost. For Scott, however, there was simply no evidence to persuade him of the truth of any part of Christianity. &#8220;I believe Jesus of Nazareth  existed . . . I cannot deny that fact . . . there is simply too much written about him,&#8221; he once told me. But the Jesus he believed in and the Jesus of the Bible simply did not match up.</p>
<p>I spoke to another old friend on Facebook today. When she found out that I am a preacher she immediately began telling me about all of her religious views (or the lack thereof). She said that regarding Christianity she was with Bill Maher, although she doesn&#8217;t want to offend anyone with her beliefs. &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe there was a talking snake. I don&#8217;t believe that a man lived for 3 days in a giant fish. I don&#8217;t believe that a 900 year old dude built an ark and then gathered every single species of creature to live together for 40 days. I don&#8217;t believe in a talking bush. I don&#8217;t believe the earth is only a few thousand years old. I don&#8217;t believe that people and dinosaurs co-existed. So I find it difficult to believe every word that is printed,&#8221; she told me in her message. She just could not believe in the miraculous and super-natural. She admitted, however, that she is not arrogant enough to think that there is nothing beyond this life. Sounds like she is practicing some of Scott&#8217;s wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Why this total rejection of the truth of God&#8217;s word and the claims made by Jesus by people who would sort-of-like-it-to-be-true-maybe? At least they wished that their version of Christianity could be true. Why is this? Well I don&#8217;t claim to have all the answers, but I think it has something to do with the &#8220;post-modern&#8221; way in which people dismiss anything that they cannot verify themselves. They won&#8217;t believe Jesus could do miracles unless they see them with their own eyes. As a people we have grown so skeptical. At least we are skeptical regarding divine truth which makes demands on us and punishes disobedience. We are not, however, as skeptical when it comes to things in the world that we think will make us happy. Just look at the commercials on television. I think you can tell a great deal about the character and intelligence of a people by the kinds of commercials that get them to buy stuff. For the most part commercials are absolutely idiotic. They have a catchy jingle, a good looking man or woman who promises that if you use this product you can be just like them, and an easy payment plan that won&#8217;t stretch your pocketbook too much. We are not skeptics at all when it comes to secular consumerism!</p>
<p>So, it appears that Scott and my other friend are probably just denying the truth of Christianity because they want to live life by thier own rules, rather than submitting to those of God. When you think about it that way, that is not very &#8220;post-modern&#8221; at all. That sort of thinking is as old as the &#8220;talking snake&#8221; in the garden of Eden my friend so staunchly denys. We humans always prefer things our way. We want to be our own god. At least for now, anyway. It won&#8217;t change until Jesus returns and makes all things new. But then, according to the Bible, by the time adequate proof arrives (i.e. Jesus himself coming back to earth on a white horse) for those who do not believe in Jesus now, it will be too late.</p>
<p>Let us pray earnestly to the Lord for all those we know to be in this position.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason McNutt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Piper has highlighted the current craziness of the Lakeland &#8220;revival&#8221; and the impact it is having even in the charismatic circles. Read here Here is a video that shows the madness.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=443&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piper has highlighted the current craziness of the Lakeland &#8220;revival&#8221; and the impact it is having even in the charismatic circles.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/1348_Test_Revival_with_Doctrine/">Read here</a></p>
<p>Here is a video that shows the madness.<br />
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		<title>Plastic Letter Theology: 3 May 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason McNutt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually like this message (although I wouldn&#8217;t really put it on a church sign).  This message actually states a truth that more churches need to follow.  Jesus is the Head Pastor of all our churches and we are simply &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/plastic-letter-theology-3-may-2008/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=406&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/new-management.jpg?w=300&amp;h=233" alt="" />I actually like this message (although I wouldn&#8217;t really put it on a church sign).  This message actually states a truth that more churches need to follow.  Jesus is the Head Pastor of all our churches and we are simply serving as under-shepherds to His greater headship.  When we begin to see the church for it what it really is then we will have more awe and reverence for the Bride of Christ.  The ideas of &#8220;casual&#8221; worship will leave our vocabulary because we can never come before the Righteous King with a casualness.  This does not mean we have to wear specific clothes or say certain words but it does mean that our hearts should be bowed before Jesus. </p>
<p>Jesus is the Head of the church and we must never forget.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;A Savior On Capitol Hill&#8221; :: John Piper On The Similarities Between Liberals And Conservatives</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. John Piper has written a thought provoking post on the difference (or the lack of difference, rather) between conservatives and liberals. With politics in the air this season, I thought this was fitting for us all to think about. &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/politics-is-politics-and-evil-is-evil-john-piper-on-the-similarities-between-liberals-and-conservatives/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=402&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. John Piper has written a thought provoking post on the difference (or the lack of difference, rather) between conservatives and liberals. With politics in the air this season, I thought this was fitting for us all to think about. Yes, even you Ron Paul supporters, too!</p>
<p> Here is a quote from the post:</p>
<blockquote><p>That liberals justify their support for butchery in the name of freedom, and conservatives justify their indifference to the miseries of poverty in the name of freedom, does not conceal the selective nature of the freedoms they want. The one says, Keep your hands off my body. The other says, Keep your hands off my wallet.</p></blockquote>
<p>The rest of this article can be read <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1157_overcome_contradictory_compassion/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Also fitting is this song from our brother Derek Webb.</p>
<p align="center"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/politics-is-politics-and-evil-is-evil-john-piper-on-the-similarities-between-liberals-and-conservatives/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/BbNUFveBCr8/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span> </p>
<p align="left">When its all said and done, it doesn&#8217;t matter if you are Ron Paul, Barack Obama, George Bush, or George Washington, politics is politics and evil is evil!</p>
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		<title>Is The Virgin Birth Essential? :: X-Mas With Desiring God</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a great article from Desiring God on the Virgin Birth (Virginal Conception) of the God-Man, Jesus Christ. Merry Christmas everyone.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=393&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="center">Here&#8217;s a great article from Desiring God on the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/991/#_ftn2">Virgin Birth</a> (Virginal Conception) of the God-Man, Jesus Christ. Merry Christmas everyone.</div>
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		<title>25 Theses :: A New Reformation (updated)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gates</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On October 31, 1517, Martin Luther posted his now famous 95 Theses on the door of the Wittenburg church in Germany. It was a list of problems that he had observed in the church at that time, which in his &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/25-theses/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=391&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="color:#000000;">On October 31, 1517, </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Martin Luther posted his now famous </span><em><span style="color:#000000;">95 Theses</span></em><span style="color:#000000;"> on the door of the Wittenburg church </span><span style="color:#000000;">in Germany. It was a list of problems that he had observed in the church at that time, which in his mind</span><span style="color:#000000;"> needed to be reformed. In the same spirit I offer these 25 theses in an effort to bring to light some of the </span><span style="color:#000000;">problems of our own day. I do not compare myself with Dr. Luther, nor do I claim to be an authority in these</span><span style="color:#000000;"> areas, nor do I have any lofty ideas about sparking a world-wide reformation with this post. I am simply a </span><span style="color:#000000;">follower of Jesus Christ, called by God to ministry, seeking to live a life that is worthy of the gospel. I desire</span><span style="color:#000000;"> primarily to accomplish 3 small things with this post. First, I wanted to establish a written form of my </span><span style="color:#000000;">growing concerns for our churches. Second, I wish to encourage and challenge my brothers in the ministry to make every effort to live the</span><span style="color:#000000;"> biblical gospel before God. Third, I want to initiate discussion and friendly debate over these theses. Hopefully, some of you will take me up on my offer and some truth will come out of it to the glory of God. Let our consciences be &#8220;held captive to the word of God.&#8221;*</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">* Famous Luther quote</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#ff0000;"><span style="color:#000000;">It is my contention that the modern American evangelical church (especially but not limited to the Southern Baptist Convention) no longer reflects New Testament Christianity.</span><span style="color:#000000;"> The church is in great need of a reformation which will restore the truth of God&#8217;s word back to its proper place in the life of the body of Christ. The statistics are in, </span><span style="color:#000000;">and the professing church is no different from the world in character, holiness, ambitions, family life, etc. This is a great tragedy that may only be righted by the power of the Spirit</span><span style="color:#000000;"> working in the hearts of his people, through the means of biblical preaching, teaching, and church life. </span><span style="color:#000000;">What the church needs are prophets of God, such as Martin Luther, who will</span><span style="color:#000000;"> not be afraid of challenging the status quo, and who can affect much needed change. The following are 25 theses for a new, and much needed reformation of the church.</span></span><span style="color:#000000;"> </span><span id="more-391"></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#000000;">1. Jesus Christ</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> is thought of and preached in the church as a “semi-gay-hippie-peasant-in-a-dress”** who walks around the desert, sipping herbal tea, and looking to meet some nice people, and enjoy some good times making everyone feel good about themselves, while working for world peace.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">This picture of Jesus must be done away with. The church must begin to preach the real Jesus, Jesus the Warrior-King, God eternal, Almighty creator, the vengeance-is-mine-saith-the-LORD, King of kings and Lord of lords Jesus who is reveald in Scripture.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right;"><span style="color:#000000;">** Stole this language from Mark Driscoll </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">2. Pulpits</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> are filled with so-called “men of God” who are as God-centered as an episode of 7</span><sup><span style="color:#000000;">th</span></sup><span style="color:#000000;"> Heaven, and as gospel saturated as a bag of potato chips, offering their people an unhealthy dose of spiritual self-help, and self-esteem theology.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Pastors must begin to preach the word; that’s “THE” word, not THEIR word. Pastors must begin to teach and preach in such a way so as to raise the affections of the people toward Christ, to the glory of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">3. Churches </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">are filled with </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">Youth Ministers</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> and Children&#8217;s Ministers who resemble the baby sitter next door, rather than servants of the church who desire to help parents fulfill their responsibility to teach their children (and teenagers) the ways of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must restructure their ministries in an effort to encourage and challenge husbands and fathers to take up their God-given role as the primary spiritual leader and teacher in his family, and to assist parents in cultivating in their children a passion for the glory of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;"> 4. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches are </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">governmentally structured</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> like an American Democracy promoting the ideas of enlightenment philosophers, rather than like the body of Christ which should be governed by God-called men who possess the proper gifts of the Spirit.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must seek to be biblical in structuring their governments. They must be governed by biblically qualified elders who are following the leadership of the Holy Spirit in submission to and in conjunction with each other, rather than giving controlling power to the people in the pews who may or may not even be truly regenerate.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">5. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches are ruled by </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">elders </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">who do not meet biblical qualifications for elders.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must be intentional about singling out God-gifted, qualified men to serve the church as elders, who are qualified in accordance with the scriptures.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">6. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches are filled with </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">pastors </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">who live </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">lifestyles </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">more consistent with the CEO of </span><em><span style="color:#000000;">Microsoft Corporation</span></em><span style="color:#000000;"> than the lifestyle of a suffering servant and good soldier of Jesus Christ.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Men of God must seek to live moderate lifestyles, choosing rather to &#8220;suffer&#8221; with the people of God, than to enjoy the comforts and leisurely distractions of this world. Pastors and elders must give themselves fully and wholeheartedly to the ministry of the word of God and prayer, proving themselves &#8220;worthy of their wages.&#8221; Furthermore, churches must insist on pastors and elders keeping their lifestyles in check, in accordance with the example of Christ.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">7. Regarding worship,</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> churches follow the two extremes of, on the one hand stubbornly refusing to modernize music and songs for congregational worship, and on the other hand rejecting older hymns and traditional forms of worship which have enjoyed great significance in the life of the historical church.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must seek foremost to glorify God in worship, communicating the truths of the gospel and the greatness of God in song in such a way that the people understand and are challenged and encouraged and built up. Churches must seek men and women who are passionate about the supremacy of God in worship, and who are well versed in the music and methods of worship.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">8. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches are </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">theologically illiterate,</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> having no concept of the great truths of Scripture whereby we are brought into a deeper understanding and knowledge of God through the Spirit.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must hold to, and study and teach sound doctrine, in keeping with the orthodox creeds of Christendom, which were handed down from the apostles and prophets of the first church, and preserved in accordance with what the scriptures reveal about God, the nature of mankind, and the practice of the church.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">9. Churches</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> who are theological in nature can be more concerned with promoting a certain theological system, or their favorite </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">pet doctrines</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> than they are about preaching the gospel to all nations.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must get over their favorite theological acronym and seek to preach and teach from a purely biblical perspective and hermeneutic, not getting caught up in trying to win the world to their way of thinking on peripheral issues.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">10. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches no longer practice proper </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">discipline</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> of its members, and encouragement toward holy living.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must begin to establish biblical standards for church membership, disciplining those who lives inconsistently with the narrow way.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">11. Salvation</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> in the church has become a mere recitation of the proper words and phrases (the sinner&#8217;s prayer), in conjunction with &#8220;going down&#8221; the isle.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Preacher&#8217;s must insist that there be repentance and faith in a would-be convert&#8217;s heart before he/she is admitted into church membership. Church membership must be REGENERATE church membership, with converts showing forth fruit that is in accordance with repentance. Furthermore, the churches evangelical proclamation must be scriptural in nature, not making room for wrong motivations on the part of the respondent, and being careful not to give false assurance to converts.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">12. Some Churches</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#000000;">,</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> on the other hand, have become so afraid of giving false hope to unregenerate candidates that they fail to properly </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">exhort </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">people to repentance and faith and good works.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must proclaim the responsibility of every person to repent before God, and to live for his glory, showing and helping converts to see how this is done in dependence on the Holy Spirit.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">13. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have become </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">exclusivistic </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">in nature, refusing to intentionally seek fellowship with sister churches, which could greatly benefit all parties involved.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must seek to fellowship with other like-minded churches as much as possible in order to foster a biblical feeling of Kingdom reality.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">14. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Pastors and elders refuse to </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">train and mentor younger men</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> who feel called to vocational ministry.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">These pastors must be intentional about seeking out such God-called men, training and discipling them, mentoring them in the ways of gospel ministry, helping them with education costs, and sending them out with the support (both prayerful and financial) of the local body of Christ.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">15. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches disregard the </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">Lord&#8217;s Supper</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">, neglecting to observe it on a regular basis.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must observe the ordinance of communion often, perhaps every time they gather for worship thereby &#8220;proclaiming the Lord&#8217;s death until he comes.&#8221; There is no greater portrayal of the death of Christ than the constant reminder of the Lord&#8217;s supper.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">16. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have reduced the meaning of the Lord&#8217;s Supper to a </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">mere symbol</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> which can be observed just every-so-often (once a quarter for most, some less).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must reevaluate the scriptural significance of this holy rite as an actual participation in the body and blood of the Lord, and a means of grace and spiritual food that cannot be done without.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">17. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have weakened the meaning of </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">Baptism </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">in the minds and hearts of the people by allowing &#8220;converts&#8221; to participate in the church without being immediately baptized in profession of their faith in Christ.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must insist that all converts submit to baptism immediately, under the proper counsel teaching, as part of their confession of faith and repentance, in obedience to Christ. Baptism must be viewed, not as a mere picture of what has happened to a convert, but as a means of grace whereby the convert makes his/her &#8220;pledge to God for a clean conscience,&#8221; and makes his/her public profession of the name of Jesus Christ to the glory of God the Father.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><img src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/95-theses.jpg?w=115&#038;h=108" alt="" hspace="2" vspace="2" width="115" height="108" align="right" /><span style="color:#000000;">18. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have relaxed their </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">standards for holy living</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> under the banner of &#8220;once saved, always saved,&#8221; thereby unintentionally excusing members to lives lawlessly.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must insist that members live holy lives in reverential fear of God, &#8220;examining&#8221; and &#8220;testing&#8221; themselves to see if they are &#8220;in the faith,&#8221; living lives that are &#8220;worthy of the gospel of Christ,&#8221; and pursuing the &#8220;holiness without which no one will see the Lord.&#8221; Churched must teach and preach the doctrine of perseverance, being certain that only &#8220;those who persevere to the end will be saved.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">19. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have ceased to provide for the </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">physical needs</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> of its members, as well as neglecting ministries of </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">mercy to the poor</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must be intentional about seeking out needs within the congregations and distributing resources in such a manner that no one remains in need. Some churches would rather spend money helping homeless people before they would spend it helping out its own members. At the same time, churches must reach out to the poor and downcast of society, helping to show God&#8217;s mercy in relieving some of their stresses (hunger, thirst, clothes, companionship, etc.), realizing that to such is given the kingdom of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">20. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">wasted money</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> that could be used for the furtherance of the gospel in unreached groups around the world on gaudy buildings with bad acoustics, and jungle gym playgrounds for unruly kids.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must give tirelessly, of the money and their time, to the work of missions around the globe, evaluating budgetary items such as large building programs in the light of the what will serve best for the missionary enterprise.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">21. Men</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> in the church no longer act as men. Godly male leadership has given place to that kind emasculated manhood whereby men are satisfied to allow anyone else to run things so long as they get to go fishing or golfing once a week. The result is that younger men have no role models in the church.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Pastors must teach and preach what biblical manhood looks like, challenging men to live lives of purity and holiness, and to be godly, spiritual leaders in the home and in the community. Men must take up their responsibility in the home to lead in all areas, training their children for service in the kingdom of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">22. Women</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> in the church have rejected their biblical roles as godly mothers, submissive wives, and humble servants of Christ and his church. Biblical womanhood has given place to attitudes and practices which are not fitting for women of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Men must lead spiritually in the home, caring for and loving their wives the way Christ loves the church, seeking their sanctification by the Word in an effort to enjoy being co-heirs of the kingdom of God in Christ. Likewise, women must submit to their husbands (or to parents and/or elders if not married) out of reverence for Christ, working to assist their husbands in his God-called role.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">23. Pastors</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> and </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">elders </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">have failed to lead the charge in local </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">evangelism</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Pastors must lead congregations, both from the pulpit and from the community in reaching out to lost people, declaring the glory of Christ in the gospel and calling people to repentance and faith.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">24. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Regarding </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">cultural relevance</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> churches have fallen into one of two extremes. On the one hand, being so culturally irrelevant that they ensure that no one outside the church comes there to seek the gospel of Christ, and on the other hand, so culturally relevant that they forget the gospel altogether.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must seek to be relevant to its surrounding culture, ministering to it in fear of Christ, and communicating the gospel in language that they understand.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">25. </span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">Churches have rejected the use of </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">miraculous spiritual gifts</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">, thinking rather that things such as </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">abstinence from alcohol</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> makes one godly and provides the proper witness to the world.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must seek to practice all spiritual gifts in an orderly, thoroughly biblical manner, relying on the Spirit&#8217;s power and authority to work in the hearts and lives of people as he sees fit. Churches must not continue to quench the Spirit in this manner, but must seek his will, and all expressions of it. Churches must be faithful in prayer and laying on of hands for sick people, believing that the Holy Spirit still heals. Churches must not think that outward expressions of abstinence from such things as alcohol, tobacco, and/or movies will replace the ministry of the Holy Spirit, who works miraculously in the lives of people, testifying of the greatness of the mercy and grace of our Lord.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">Churches must, in everything they do, seek to &#8220;spread a passion for the supremacy of God in all things, for the joy of all peoples.&#8221;*** Churches must seek to be intently biblical in all areas of worship, practice, government, family life, ministry, missions and theology.They must worship God faithfully, think and preach about him biblically, and be as committed to </span><strong><span style="color:#000000;">His name and His renown</span></strong><span style="color:#000000;"> as he himself is through Jesus Christ. Primary and foremost in the thinking and in the life and labor of the church must be the ever-glorious, fearful and majestic, joy giving truth of the glory of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#000000;">*** Stole this language from John Piper</span></p>
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		<title>Plastic Letter Theology: Sep 27, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason McNutt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been a while since I posted a church sign.  Both Chris and I have been busy and since Chris just moved into a new place he doesn&#8217;t have internet yet and so cannot post.  So here is the &#8230; <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/plastic-letter-theology-sep-27-2007/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=382&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="float:left;margin:2px;" src="http://vintagechristianity.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/peace-sign.jpg?w=640" alt="" />It has been a while since I posted a church sign.  Both Chris and I have been busy and since Chris just moved into a new place he doesn&#8217;t have internet yet and so cannot post.  So here is the latest sign and I have to say I am actually pleased with this one.</p>
<p>There are so many times that I hear Christians present the gospel as peace, joy and happiness to nonbelievers.  While this is true it is often misunderstood.  In Christ there is peace and joy and happiness for the believer but what do those statements mean? <span id="more-382"></span></p>
<p>Peace is defined by the world as free from all pain and suffering.  Peace means to those around us that no one will be harmed and that no one will be poor.  It means my insurance rates won&#8217;t rise and gas prices will always be $1/gallon.  The Bible has a different definition.  Peace is being free from the wrath and judgment of the all-powerful God that we have sinned against.  Peace is being reconciled to this Holy Creator through Jesus by his death on a cross for our sins thus taking the wrath of God upon himself.  Peace means no longer being considered an enemy of God but a child of God by adoption through Christ.  Peace is having all kinds of trials and tribulations here on earth for the sake of the gospel and not being alone in the suffering.  This is biblical peace.  So when you preach the gospel you must also call people to suffer for the sake of the Savior.  Preach true peace.  For more on suffering read this <a href="http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/the-necessity-and-joy-of-suffering-in-the-christian-life/">article</a>.</p>
<p>Joy and happiness to the world means being rich, doing whatever I please and whatever satisfies me.  Joy and happiness are presented with ME in the middle.  Again the Bible has a different view.  Joy and happiness are following in the footsteps of Jesus.  Walking the same path and enduring the same trials.  It is being in the same company as others that have given everything for the gospel.  We were made to be happy and have joy, but what how is that manifested in the life of a believer?  John Piper has done more on this subject than I could ever begin to present here.  Please read this small <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bfyj/bfyj.pdf" target="_blank">booklet</a> and visit <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org" target="_blank">Desiring God</a>.</p>
<p>Please, when you are preaching the gospel or just talking to a friend who needs Jesus, please present the truth and call them to a life of freedom from wrath, joy in suffering and happiness in a life shadowed by Jesus.</p>
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		<title>The Baptism Debate is Over</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason McNutt</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Ad Absurdum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[baptism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Believer's Baptism]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[TomintheBox has posted the conclusion to the debate.  And to think we spent all this time laying out both sides. Infant Genius Finally Resolves Baptism Debate<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vintagechristianity.wordpress.com&amp;blog=680192&amp;post=381&amp;subd=vintagechristianity&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomintheBox has posted the conclusion to the debate.  And to think we spent all this time laying out both sides.</p>
<p><a href="http://tominthebox.blogspot.com/2007/09/infant-genius-finally-resolves-baptism.html">Infant Genius Finally Resolves Baptism Debate</a></p>
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